While a not-so-small army of police officers barred members of the 2012 Occupy National Gathering in Philadelphia from crossing a street to enter a free, public concert, Occupy Detroit live-streamer Diara Lo caught this unusual discussion. In it, a Philadelphia police liaison and several articulate Occupy members, some from New York, engage in a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about the interactions between police and the Occupy movement since its birth in September 2011.

Shes save the impromptu, hour-long in discussion in the two videos below on July 3, 2012.